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Post by travis on Apr 16, 2020 22:33:21 GMT
I plan on a AVP series in the main EV myself as a "cannon sequel" to the main Predator films set years after Predator 2 with a older Dutch and a current version of Ellen Ripley. While I would love to do an AvsP story, my plan is to do some short stories. I have a vague idea about connecting the two franchises with a hapless Colonial Marine who ends up encountering both separately. Also might do some historical Predator stories. A/P is way down my wish list. Nothing solid yet.
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Post by travis on Apr 16, 2020 22:48:07 GMT
'Hat and I have also been doing some Who work. What are you Star Trek ideas? If you don't mind me asking. I want to do more Q and Vash stories, I'd love to do an Assignment: Earth mini, and I'd like to do a story about a Klingon ship. Any ideas featuring the actual Trek series, are only vague one offs. I have a vague dream of doing an ongoing, but that would require being able to stay on schedule. I know Next Gen has been dibbed and would imagine the Federation would have a big influence on the rest of the Bold, so I'd touch base before making any solid plans.
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Post by transformthebat on Apr 16, 2020 22:55:40 GMT
I meant to say, it's crazy that Q and Vash got together in this universe too, what are the chances? Is there even a Next Gen in this reality? If there is, don't think anyone's dibsed it.
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Post by travis on Apr 16, 2020 23:14:46 GMT
I meant to say, it's crazy that Q and Vash got together in this universe too, what are the chances? Is there even a Next Gen in this reality? If there is, don't think anyone's dibsed it. Nope, my mistake. Double checking the quadrants list, it says the Bold is set in the Next Gen era, not that they've been dibbed. A bunch of Trek characters have been dibbed, none of the series. One of the reason I've stuck to the fringes, is that it seemed Trek would be a big part of establishing the status quo of the Bold and that seemed like a project that would require research and the ability to be organized and stick to a schedule. All my projects are set around the main Trek series or in the past, so I don't mess with anyone else plans.
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Post by transformthebat on Apr 16, 2020 23:29:16 GMT
I am entirely lost right now as to how you think this works.
The serieses as we watched them, as they exist in real world as TV shows, that didn't happen here. Maybe versions of the ships, versions of the crews are out there, maybe versions of some of the stories happened, but the serieses as we know them from our tellies do not exist here.
How can you stick to the fringes of a Universe without knowing what that Universe looks like?
Who are Q and Vash? What do they connect to? Right now, your Q story is the only indication that a Picard even exists in our Universe. You established that. And establishing from the outside in is much more dangerous than just going for the core.
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Post by travis on Apr 16, 2020 23:51:38 GMT
My view is that unless established somewhere in a story on the site, that any franchise on the list is some vague version of what we seen on TV/moive with the addition that people/things from other franchises within a quadrant can be incorporated.
For example: going forward, my version of Lost in Space will be similar to the TV show, but with the idea that it is an early space exploration program that will someday evolve into Star fleet.
I am a bit confused why I'm being told after my story was approved and published on the site that I'm doing it wrong?
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Post by transformthebat on Apr 16, 2020 23:59:39 GMT
Well, not so much wrong as "contrary to your stated goals".
If you want to ensure people the most creative freedom, you don't go 'round the outside boxing them in.
Just as a random off the top of my head example, what if in this world, the inclusion of things like the The Orville kayFabe meant that Voyager never went to the badlands and never got lost in the whatsit quadrant? The whole series is immediately uncanoned. If you did a story about the dinosaur people in that quadrant whose society was touched by Voyager, you would be establishing they /did/ get lost over there. Just for example.
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Post by transformthebat on Apr 17, 2020 0:04:21 GMT
My point is not that you need to stay away from establishing core things better, nor that you shouldn't do side stories if that's what you want to do.
Only that writing side stories doesn't actually mean you're staying away from establishing core things.
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Post by transformthebat on Apr 17, 2020 0:19:30 GMT
In other words, every time you write a "side-story" that works by assuming the TV canon is true, that's you establishing that the TV canon is also our canon.
It's a weird fuckin' way to do it, but it's not "wrong".
Unless your goal is to avoid establishing things...
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Post by travis on Apr 17, 2020 0:37:09 GMT
Okay, so what's the plan going forward?
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Post by transformthebat on Apr 17, 2020 0:53:19 GMT
We continue to establish things?
But consciously, realizing were doing it.
Nothing is established until we establish it. That is simply a reality that needs to be understood. Once it is understood, we can continue establishing.
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Post by travis on Apr 17, 2020 1:01:13 GMT
So, no side stories until a franchise has been established?
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Post by transformthebat on Apr 17, 2020 1:03:38 GMT
I've been speaking English, right?
I've said the same thing about six different ways now. I suppose I'll have to take some time to think of six /more/ ways to say it before coming back. Eventually I'll be understood.
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Post by travis on Apr 17, 2020 1:12:07 GMT
I'm asking for clarification because we are we having this conversation after somebody approved and published my Trek side story.
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Post by transformthebat on Apr 17, 2020 1:16:54 GMT
UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU ARE ESTABLISHING THINGS.
THAT IS ALL.
THAT IS LITERALLY ALL.
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